During the heating season, a Council Fire is fine for open fireplaces or to start an airtight stove. Thanks for sharing, that is a very useful tip for everybody who has a fireplace at home (like me ). Trust the laws of physics, and light your fire. April 3, 2013. Who’s the boss now! I’ve been using a similar method to light and maintain a long, steady burn on my BBQ smoker for 3 years, yet never thought of trying it in the fireplace. I started with 2 decent sized large pieces of wood then 3 split smaller sized and toped it off with some broken (as flat as I could find) pieces. These coals are excellent for most cooking purposes. Bricks upside down in Fireplace. Thanks so much Tim, keep up the great work. Add a kindling layer (small twigs about the size of your pinky) on top of the stack. Some of the best times in my life were around great fires. Critical is fine, but if you’re rude, we’ll delete your stuff. ideas that can help people around the world live a higher quality life; it is very important to find ways to get back to the basics and get their mind to slow down. Light the middle and watch it go up. Light the fire from the top, and enjoy fuss-free flames all night. http://www.motherearthnews.com/Modern-Homesteading/Wood-Fire-Building-Tips.aspx. Not only that, but it’s inspired me. Ah yes…the fire. Have been doing this on a regular basis since i first read the post. It seems to me that when the big logs at the bottom are rolling, you could then add large logs to it, to keep the fire going. We recently learned what we’ve concluded is the absolute best way to build a fire in a wood-burning stove. NB: The size of our fire place is literally no bigger than 2ft x 2ft x 1.5ft(tall) so I had to downside the setup. That is good for the environment. As it is self feeding you will be able to build it before bed, light it, and then keep warm without having to climb out of your sleeping bag or shelter. Hi John, The goal is to create embers that then fall to the layer below, which is why there cannot by any spaces between logs. Crazy how people stick to conventions and refuse to see or try any other way. Place your paper on top, and light (a sprinkle of extra kindling on top is a good idea). I always struggled making a lasting fire on my barbecue. Maybe this will create enough heat to start the draft up the chimney. I got about 5 hours out of a 50% smaller stack of wood than this in our large woodstove. Then, after you build up some coals/embers in the middle of the pile, spread apart the logs on just one side. Would we just have to wait until it’s completely out and then rebuild and light the whole thing again? share. The upside-down fire produces and projects much more heat than a standard tipi fire. Yesterday’s blog was humorous. As you can see in the fourth picture you place everything on top. May I present to you the Upside Down Fire: The Upside Down Fire Method. Normally my fire dies because we often forget about it after it’s lit. I won’t get 6-7 hours, but my fireplace is small compared to your examples. As for being new to the prepper lifestyle, it is never too late to learn to be prepared so welcome! Glad I could make a small contribution. I started it at 4pm and it was still going at 11pm, very impressive. No paper at all. I skipped the paper and had a “starter log plastic packet” on top. I’ve been building fires since before my Scout days, I was taught to build them exactly as you described, this looks so much better, cannot wait to build it and see for myself….B Jim. A fireplace fire operates differently than your typical campfire, so it makes sense that building one should require a few tweaks to your standard procedure. OK, I admit it. I am one up on my buddies. Did the number of comments have some influence on that? Now I have a perfect excuse to build a fire in the name of science. Sounds like someone’s been reading the website of Mother Earth News: The Original Guide to Living Wisely. Thanks for the great comments! Quick suggestion for those who live in conifer areas. Along with good wood, you can help reduce smoke by using an upside down fire-building technique. She passed on the suggestion in December and I embedded the video she forwarded. I encourage you to give it a try next time you are camping or setting up a backyard bonfire. Your email address will not be published. Love the book, and recommend it to others often. You are going to use large fuel wood for this layer, larger than your thumb. You’ll never have the paper burn out while leaving the wood unkindled again, and makes the fire-starters a lot more optional. This will make a sideways ‘V’ shape which is what you place your pots on – big pots/fry pans on the wide side and small pots on the narrow side. Now where can I learn about the best child-raising habits . Another important step to knowing how to work a fireplace is to make sure all ashes are cleaned out of the firebox before you start stacking wood for that first fireplace fire. I think I’m going to try this tomorrow. And as further punishment, it was also going to be our job to tend to the fire all night. I’m saddened by the predominance of gas log fireplaces in Atlanta. A beautiful, slow burn to the bottom logs and created incredible heat. 2 comments. 1. Hey, we were city kids. Simply sweep or vacuum the cold ashes and dispose of them outside. I had to add small pieces of wood on top in order to build up enough embers. Feel free to build 1-3 layers of this sized wood if you have enough and if you have organized your wood build each layer upwards out of slightly smaller thickness pieces. Lol). My name is Chris and I created this site to help ordinary people prepare for the uncertainties of the modern day world. That is genius and exactly what I expect from you and this site. As an upside down fire burns it creates a large supply of coals from the logs integrated into the base of the design. Worked perfectly, first time! Tried this last night and it was so hot, it heated my 2500 feet Craftsman home. Awesome info as always Tim! That floored us. -organizing an office space (to compliment your chair of course), -How to lead &/or motivate team-mates / coworkers, -Quickly studying & retaining large amounts of info (language vocab, math equations, random facts or history). I would leave the plonk alone,to be honest…, Your email address will not be published. I didn’t have any split logs, just whole logs & pine cones. © 2020 TheBugOutBagGuide.com By create a hotter environment the larger logs will cook hotter and burn hotter than if started cold with a starter kindling underneath. Great idea Fred, thanks. The platform part was very similar to yours. Watch the short video below for details on how to do this. Have fun and thanks for adding to the conversation! Smoke comes from incomplete combustion, which is what you’ll get when you have a flame struggling under a heavy pile of wood. In a campfire you put the tinder and everything to get the fire going on the bottom, but in a fireplace the tinder goes on the top. We, being smart aleck kids, decided to make a joke out of it. you graduate upwards to the smallest pieces of kindling and wood shavings or bits of paper. But if you’re in it for a short duration fire, this works great! Once again build 1-3 layers of small fuel wood up with each being perpendicular to the last layer and slightly smaller thickness. For some people, stacking and lighting a fire … Does it get any more enjoyable? These fire building methods have served me well and I have enjoyed many a meal and evening sitting around their warm glow. The upside-down fire produces and projects much more heat than a standard tipi fire. Does anyone know how well this works without the fire starter squares? Logs would have some gaps anyway because of their natural irregular shape. thank you tim! Now I can get a fire going that runs for 2-3 hours and usually only needs a log turned towards the very end. ), Basically you put 2 logs at the bottom level. Set it up, go get your food ready and then come back to a nice bed of cooking coals! Choosing and adding your tinder is a crucial last step. While my wood stove is large enough to keep a fire going most of the night, it does nearly go out by time to get up in the early morning, leaving only coals and a chilly house. ... this is a blog posting about the Upside-Down Fire. There were a couple of guys who had been in the boy scouts when they were young and they new the “right” way. What I appreciate about your blog is the varied nature of what you post about, around the central theme of counter-intuitive optimizations! I wonder if this will work in a fireplace in my basement that smoked my house up when I last tried to burn wood. Being as we live in Mexico, and the local kindling is called ‘diesel,’ it took a few tries to get this to work. Northern Switzerland suffers from inversion layers in the winter and the “normal” wood fire don’t help the smog situation. April 21, 2016. This method changed my life. An upsidedown fire generates lots of coals. And it’s damn cold at the moment…. . 67% Upvoted. It does take a little practice to get right and you do have to use dry firewood to make it successful. Earlier, before leaving for the trip, Larry and I we were caught jumping off the roofs of the camp cabins after being told not to. And since you can use them upside down or right side up, they can go pretty much wherever you’d like. I’ll give it a try this afternoon. Build the fire upside-down. A little research caused me to learn that the smoke from a fire is more damaging to the lungs of me and mine than tobacco smoke. I very much liked your article on the upside down fire. Let us know how it goes for you. Oh man, you’ve disclosed my winning trick! Best chimney blocking device on the market. fire" because, starting with the biggest logs on the bottom. With the upside-down fire technique you build your fire from the base up before you light it, not only that, but you start with the biggest logs at the bottom, then some smaller logs and then the kindling on top. Fred. One reason they want to promote this method is that far fewer pollutants and fine particles (PM10) are given off. I will keep you all posted once I start working on it. From the high tea estates of South India where it gets cold at night…. There’s not much room in the firebox for a large stack of wood as you have shown. 1) Put the largest logs at the bottom, ensuring there is no space at all between them. The newspaper is lit, and the fire slowly burns down to the large logs below. To my surprise 20 minutes later it was burning from the second layer of smaller logs. I have an old-fashioned Franklin stove in my lake house in Pennsylvania. I started the cube at 15.30, closed the door and… it just burned all alone till evening! built in a layered fashion starting with tinder at the top and increasing in size all the way to large logs at its base Each of your books is a significant improvement from the previous. I then linked to the 5 skills you need to know when bugging out. The stove sits in the lower level on one side of a 26×50 square house (2 story). Lay these logs side by side and as close together as you can get them. The top down fire or self feeding fire is a fire building technique that's much different than building a conventional fire. By the time you get to the top layer the wood should be of the smallest thickness you have, no bigger than a twig. I’ve just tried this method in our new firebox (much to my husbands dismay ). It may no longer serve as our primary heating source—thanks, electricity!—but ever since that first hominid rubbed two sticks together to create a spark, we’ve been hardwired to gather around an open flame and just stare at it until we fall asleep. This makes the upside down fire especially good for wood stoves. Anyway, I scored some brownie points with this upside fire technique, thanks! Or you can click on the Share Bar on the left hand of the screen, there is a button there that looks like an envelope, click on it and it will open up your mail program with a new mail that contains a link to the article. Enjoyed the book and your blog. https://www.thebugoutbagguide.com/upside-down-fire/. Learn how your comment data is processed. I have no need to poke and prod for hours! It is just too darn cold up there. This brightly burning fire makes it less likely that the fireplace will smoke as it heats the chimney without the interference of loads of wood resting on top of it. Combine this with the supposed 90% efficiency of a “Russian Fireplace” and you might have a killer combination. Connect two rooms, line an entire wall, create a shared indoor / outdoor space. I would love to build a good burning fire that lasts all night. Did you give our step-by-step instructions a try? I’ve read that their chemicals and the process of producing them can be environmentally taxing. Glad to hear it worked for you! There are some great suggestions from readers in the comments below, which also address modifications for survival use and outdoors, plus tipi-style fires for cooking: “For outdoor application, I recommend doing a mini “log cabin” on top of the fire-starters with a small gate surrounding them to prevent a draft from snuffing out the fire in it’s infant stages.” (also see JBB’s points). For outdoor fires where you may not have ideal wood I’ve always found that a tipi inside a log cabin works best. Upside down fires also produce more heat than traditional fire-starting methods while greatly reducing the amount of smoke caused by the fire, which can be one of the more frustrating aspects of fireplaces. This makes sense for an indoor fire, particular using well-seasoned shingles and long-burning fire sticks on top to generate embers. The upside down fire is totally the way to go. Is there another way to build this fire without the starter logs? Now, if you want to cook on this fire, don’t crosshatch the logs the way it is shown in the picture – lay the logs all parallel to each other but still tight together. It works great in my cast-iron chimenea. Swiss research has shown that there is a better combustion of the firewood if the fire is ignited from top to bottom. These melted into the first layer of sticks and helped get the thing hot enough to work beautifully. Seriously, though, thanks for posting this – very useful. I put some wood pieces well stacked in, with smaller ones (branches) on top. I Will comment on the result of my attempt to mimic the photos shown above. Read Woodcraft and Camping by “Nessmuk” George W. Sears for more on this style of building and cooking fire. It’s great to pass on useful stuff, but at least try to give your sources. Linear fireplaces allow you to enjoy the ambiance and comfort of a fireplace without the design limitations of a traditional fireplace. In the german brochure (http://tr.im/ebb9) on the first page is mentioned the “Anfeuer-Modul” what means “Fire-Starting-Module”. we were snickering the whole time. Take everything you have learned about fire making and well...turn it upside down. the thermostat on the 2nd level will elevate 2-3 degrees with a well maintained rip-roaring fire. How It Works. Looks like it makes sense. Standard fire-building lore would have you believe a great fire starts with a tipi of wood and pile of tinder under it. I live in Georgia (USA), where wood is by far the cheapest and most abundant heating fuel. But I think our hugely irregularly shaped logpile might be a challenge, to creating any kind of layers… as well as a tiny little grate. Maybe there is strong potential to ‘out man’ the other guys at the fireplace with this obviously superior method, which has its own level of enjoyment for the man-boy…. What I learned from my test run, is that there are several advantages that an upside down fire brings to the table. This past weekend The Bug Out Bag Guide Family hosted a barbecue for some close friends. If you know Woods it called actually upside down fire. report. I never would have guessed that log on bottom and kindling on top would have ever started a fire. Take the thing and flip it over. Wood shavings can substitute for the paper in this fire lay. When the group got back, much to our chagrin, the fire was burning nicely and our joke was gone. It’s been 1 hour and 10 minutes of continuous burn and I haven’t done anything but light the match. Woodstoves can be a very green and economical way to heat, whereas fireplaces tend to be pretty and pretty wasteful. A great deal of tending is required once the finer pieces ignite. Can this method be scaled-down to a smaller stove area? Base for the fire all night empty box you get models with larger windows as well as this, only... 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